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Well, Sony has made an official announcement today at E3 on PS3's launch price:
Sony raises eyebrows with PlayStation 3 price
By Kim Peterson
Seattle Times technology reporter

LOS ANGELES — You'd expect that Sony's upcoming PlayStation 3 console would find a warm reception among the crowds at the Electronics Entertainment Expo, the annual convention of the video-game industry.

After all, these attendees are technology's early adopters who for years have readily plunked down hundreds of dollars for video-game systems and more for all the games to play on them.

But the PS3's hefty price tag is generating some concern even among the avid gamers Sony hopes to target when it debuts the system in North America on Nov. 17. A full bells-and-whistles version will cost $599 and have 60 gigabytes of storage space.

For $100 less, Sony will sell a version with 20 gigabytes. But that version doesn't have wireless Internet capability or compatibility with compact flash memory storage devices.

Because of those limitations, some people at E3 say that if you're going to pay that much money, you might as well pony up the extra $100 for the full package. But some said they weren't going to make the purchase anytime soon.

"It's too much," said Intel application developers Theodore Chilton and Mark Werder, almost in unison, when asked about the price.

"On top of that, you pay 600 bucks and you don't even get a game," Werder added. Both said that they would not immediately buy the console.

"I already have a 360," said Chilton, referring to Microsoft's next-generation Xbox 360 console, which went on sale last November. The Xbox 360 is generally considered to be about as powerful as the PS3, but is priced at $299 and $399. The more expensive version has 20 gigabytes of storage and some extra accessories.

A price tag of $199 or $299 has generally been the norm for video-game consoles at launch. Sony's PlayStation and PlayStation 2 debuted for $299, as did Microsoft's original Xbox.

One reason the PS3's price tag is so high is because it has a Blu-ray player, designed to play movies and games in the high-definition video format considered to be the successor to the DVD. Microsoft is pushing a competing high-definition format, called HD-DVD, but did not include the player as standard in the Xbox 360. It will sell the player as an accessory later this year.

The 2006 Electronics Entertainment Expo

What it is: The annual industry-only conference for the video-game business.

When and where: Conference and workshop sessions run Tuesday-Thursday at the Los Angeles Convention Center. The expo runs Wednesday-Friday.

What happens there: About two-thirds of the 400 exhibitors will show off the games they're preparing to release by the holidays. Retailers will get a sneak preview of the hottest games of the year.

What to expect: The next-generation video-game systems from Sony and Nintendo will be the talk of the show. But increasing attention is directed at mobile gaming; half of the exhibitors will launch a title for a handheld platform.

Who's selling earplugs?: Walking the show floor is like being trapped in a Best Buy for days. There will be 5,800 flat-screen computer and television screens, all blaring at once.

Source: E3Expo

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Kazuo Hirai, the chief executive of Sony Computer Entertainment America, said in an interview Wednesday that the PS3's price was justified because of all its features. Also, he said, consumers will be using the PS3 for the next 10 years.

Still, the PS3 pricing announcement was higher than expected and will be considered a negative for the video-game makers, said P.J. McNealy, an analyst with American Technology Research, in a note to investors this week.

"We believe that the pricing news is not favorable for the video-game publishers," McNealy wrote. "We are concerned about consumer spending levels on software given the high price of the hardware."

Some developers attending E3 said the PS3 was a good deal, especially considering that a Blu-ray player comes standard.

Patrick Lipo, studio creative director for Surreal Software, a Seattle-based subsidiary of Midway Games, said the PS3's price tag was higher than he had expected but not unreasonable. "I think a lot of people are going to pick it up as a Blu-ray player," he said.

Timothy McCaslin, a developer at Aberration Studios, said the technical power and graphics capability are equivalent to some computers that cost three or four times as much.

McCaslin's co-worker, Christopher Lotz, said high-end sound and video support built into the system makes the PS3 more than just a video-gaming machine.

"You can't consider the PS3 as just a game center," he said. "It's an entertainment center."

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Source: The Seattle Times: Business and Technology: Sony raises eyebrows with PlayStation 3 price

$499 & $599 is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE for a console, even if it is at launch. At those prices, an XBox360 or a Wii is looking even more attractive, since those are/will be retailing around $299 (360) and $199 (Wii). Apparently from several of the online articles I've been reading about the PS3, half of the system price alone comes from the BlueRay drive. ::)
Kazuo Hirai, the chief executive of Sony Computer Entertainment America, said in an interview Wednesday that the PS3's price was justified because of all its features. Also, he said, consumers will be using the PS3 for the next 10 years
I also find this quote by Kazuo Hirai absolutely ridiculous. Seriously, I doubt users will be using it for 10 years. Why? It is because computer technology is advancing at a incredible rate at the moment; the PS3, while having impressive system specs, is already outdated.

When the specs for PS3 were reveiled last year, they were considered a match for top of the line PCs at the time, but high-end PCs now have faster specs and the gap will widen fairly quickly as time goes by. 10 years in the IT sector is ancient news. Let me give you an example of a 10-year gap in the IT sector:

1996:

CPU: Intel Pentium MMX 100 MHz
Graphics Card: 3Dfx Voodoo 1 8MB
RAM: 32 MB EDO RAM
Operating System: Windows 95

2006 (Now):

CPU: AMD 64 FX-60 2.6 GHz, Dual Core / Intel Core Duo 2.6 GHz
Graphics Card(s): nVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX 512MB SLi / ATi Radeon X1900 XTX 512 MB Crossfire
RAM: 2 GB DDR/DDR2 SDRAM
Operating System: Windows XP

Note that the 1996 system was considered 'top-of-the-line' back then. Now, if we are to apply Hirai's PS3 logic to the 1996 system, would such a system still be viable in 2006? H4ll no! It is way too slow even for today's standards. Also, Microsoft and Nintendo will just seize on this opportunity in the next couple of years to release a console system that would be much, much faster than a PS3, leaving it in the dust.

Heh, Hirai's statement reminds me of what Bill Gates said in 1981 about total system RAM: :P

"640k should be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981

I'm sure his statement will be just as ridiculed as Gates' statement in the next 10 years. :p
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ANY electronic system will be out of date within five years... I'm not paying 600 for any game system, period.
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Alright, it's official; SCEA's head is crazy (and a moron):

E3 2006: PS3 Too Cheap -- Kutaragi

May 9, 2006 - Krazy Ken's at it again. Following the surprise pre-E3 announcement of the PlayStation 3 price, Sony Computer Entertainment head Ken Kutaragi spoke with Japan's IT Media and offered up this beauty: "It's probably too cheap."

In case you skipped out on Monday's press conference, here's the deal. In addition to showing a slew of game demonstrations, Sony Computer Entertainment's Kaz Hirai announced launch specifics for the system. PS3 will go on sale first in Japan on 11/11 at a price of 59,800 yen for a 20GB model, with a 60GB model set at open pricing. The US will get the system on 11/17 with cost set at, respectively, $499 and $599.

Kutaragi explained to IT Media why be believes the price isn't a problem:

"This is the PS3 price. Expensive, cheap -- we don't want you to think of it in terms of game machines. Because the PS3 is like nothing else.

For instance, is it not nonsense to compare the charge for dinner at the company cafeteria with dinner at a fine restaurant? It's a question of what you can do with that game machine. If you can have an amazing experience, we believe price is not a problem.


When we announced the PlayStation price, it was said to be expensive. Same for the PlayStation 2. However, when released, both had sales that were unthinkable for previous game machines. This is because both offered experiences that could not be had on previous game machines.

With the PS3, you can have next generation game experiences that could previously not be experienced -- things like next generation graphics and various services via the network. And, as with the PS and PS2, we believe people who like games will, without question, purchase it."

Kutaragi also took the time to comment on Sony's shipping targets for the system. SCE plans to have two million units available at launch (the Japanese press reports this as the initial shipment figure for the system, and not a number that will be gradually released over a launch window), with another two million by the end of the year and two million more before the end of March 2007. Regarding this, Kutaragi said, "Of course, this is a number that we announced having made sure we can definitely prepare it. There is the possibility of unexpected problems like earthquake or theft, so I won't say it's absolute, but if this type of trouble does not occur, there's no problem with this number."

We expect to hear more from Kutaragi as E3 continues, so be sure and check back over the coming days.
Source: E3 2006: PS3 Too Cheap -- Kutaragi

$599/$499 too cheap!? ::) Maybe in the minds of rich people, but not in the eyes of the average gamer. Also, it's funny (and stupid) that Kutaragi is comparing the PS3 to a "fine restaurant." If we are to use his comparison, I would choose to eat a cheaper restaurant (Wii or XBox360) that offers the same (or even better?) taste than the "fine restaurant" (PS3). And I'm not the only one that thinks this way either.

The BlueRay drive (roughly half the cost of the PS3 alone) is not worth it IMO. Sure, it would be cool to play next-gen DVD content on it, but then again, if I wanted a decent BlueRay player to watch movies, I wouldn't use a PS3 to do so, period.

For example, no one goes out to buy a PS2 just to watch DVDs on it; people buy it to play games on it. There are cheaper (and better) alternatives than a PS2.
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E3 2006: PS3 Too Cheap -- Kutaragi

For example, no one goes out to buy a PS2 just to watch DVDs on it; people buy it to play games on it. There are cheaper (and better) alternatives than a PS2.
I used my PS2 as my DVD player. I chose not to buy a DVD player since I had my PS2. Anyway Smash Brothers Brawl looks good and DBZ: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 will be awesome pluses for the Wii. So far I'm tossing up Nintendo (OMG) and PS3 (yes I have had a conversation with Christina about it and yes we are will to buy it). Also will Nintendo produce Suikoden or Xenosaga, those are the main selling points of it to me.
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Also will Nintendo produce Suikoden or Xenosaga, those are the main selling points of it to me.
Just a side note: I'm not sure if you know this already, but according to Wikipedia, RPGFan, and other sites, Xenosaga - Episode III: Also sprach Zarathustra for PS2 will be the last of the Xenosaga series:

In recent years, the Xenosaga project has seen the resignation of staff who were contributors to the game Xenogears and/or the first episode of Xenosaga. As of Episode II, Tetsuya Takahashi and Soraya Saga were removed from the Xenosaga team. According to a column by Saga, the original draft of Episode II, written by the aformentioned designers, was altered due to their removal from the project. However, this information was recently removed from Saga's website.[3] While Saga is not working on the series anymore, Takahashi continues to be involved, albeit in a non-production role. The music composer, Yasunori Mitsuda, has also left the Xenosaga series as of Episode II. After these events, Episode III was declared to be the last primary Xenosaga episode.

Tetsuya Takahashi, Kunihiko Tanaka (character designer), and Yasunori Mitsuda have been contributors to the series since its origins. While Tanaka (the only remaining member of the three) re-illustrated the characters for Episode II, he has since distanced himself from the project.
Source: Xenosaga - Wikipedia

Selling just above 50% of the official sales target set by Monolith Soft's parent company Namco, the game was singled out as one of the biggest commercial disappointments in the company's financial report for the fiscal year 2004/2005. This might have been one of the reasons behind a surprising announcement: Xenosaga Episode III: Also sprach Zarathustra (Thus spoke Zarathustra) will already mark the series' conclusion. What Takahashi had originally planned as a series spanning six episodes will, for better or worse, apparently end as a trilogy that already comes to an end this summer.
Source: RPGFan Previews - Xenosaga Episode III: Also sprach Zarathustra
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Wow that makes me sad. Also Final Fantasy XII is the last instalment of the series or is it XIII. PS3 stock is droping in my opinion now.
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PS3 IS GAY
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I think $400 is too much for a console. No matter how great it is or how great the games are. I mean the games cost $60+. but thats partly, because the store want to have more profit too.
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It's not the stores that come up with the price - it's the "recommend" price given by the game system company (Microsoft, Sony, etc.). This is where the most money is made - how much does it cost for a game to be made? 5 bucks? They make huge profits with every game they sell...
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Your also forgeting licensing and import fees.
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They still make the most money from games... hell, they could give me 5 bucks for every game they sell and they'd still be loaded (as would I)
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haha the new prices came out recently and there will be 2 prices for the system, just like the xbox 360. 500 for the 20gb hard drive system and 600 for the 60gb hard drive. with the limited supply of systems being launched here and in japan, get ready to see prices go way way above the retail price. if you want to find more info about this ign.com has news about the ps3
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i wil not buy this PS3 M*therF*cker machine >_>
ill go for nintendo xD
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